assistant watergate special prosecutor jill wine-banks. jill, i want to start with you on this, because this question of whether or not jared kushner is a targeted person or merely a witness that the fbi would like to talk to in a benign manner. should jared kushner be concerned exhibition involvement now in this probe? >> jared kushner should be concerned depending on what he knows and what he has done. and the terminology of whether he is a target, a suspect, a person of interest is really not the key here. it's what did he do, when did he do it, what did the president know, and when did he know it. >> there seems to be, you know, in any of these sorts of case, and i'm not an attorney. i will defer to you on. this you have varying degrees of potential culpability, right? it would seem to be it would be helpful to a prosecutor if you could get one of the culpable people to turn on the others. would bit possible that maybe one of these actors, one of these people who are being talked to in this probe winds up