concerned because as americans, we all really do have to get to the bottom of this. i think that if there is evidence and we don't know yet if there is collusion or not, because we're not at the end of the investigation, just to go back to that point that was brought up earlier, so how to prevent it again. that's the question we don't get to because we're all wrapped up in the collusion question. but for me as an american, i care that they hacked our democracy and i want to prevent them from doing that again. >> need we know at the end of this you don't believe there's collusion. >> right. >> but are you concerned at all with regard to james comey's testimony that the president did at least attempt to obstruct justice even if there's nothing at the end repeatedly saying let's make this go away, can you push this to the side? >> i'm not. it's not just me. i'm looking al allen dershowitz, and those with far greater legal minds than i do saying there's