many cases would describe how afraid they were, some cases having to actually be escorted out because they were really worried about their security. and you establish a culture in which people think that journalists not only are not there to serve them but that actually journalists are the enemy. none of this really surprises me. i think the fcc case as well, where the apology said something like, i was freezing and starving and that's why that happened. it was very bizarre. so none of these things make a lot of sense, i think, but also they are part of this longer continuum of a president who clearly hates the press and knows how to leverage that, again, to reach his voters. >> let's be clear. i'll get to john in a minute. lee, one more question on this, to soledad's point. the constitution protects your right to hate the press. bring it on. this is an open society. the question is what does the constitution say about a president asking the fbi director to, quote, put journalists in jail, if the