impact, but the fact that they got into it, what should the repercussions be now in your mind? >> they're just part of that broader landscape of conversations, chuck. the real impact it serves yet again to undermine the trust between the united states and russia. as i have said and the president has said, you know, we're at a very very low level of trust between our two countries right now. so what we're exploring is how do we begin the process of restoring that trust. ultimately, it will touch on all these issues. >> i want to give you a chance to respond to an op-ed senator john mccain wrote, where he invoked your name, sir. in a recent address to state department employees, secretary of state rex tillerson said conditioning our foreign policy too heavily on values creates obstacles to advance our national interests. with those words, secretary tillerson sent a message to oppressed people everywhere, don't look to the united states for hope. our values make us sympathetic to your plight and when it's convenient we might officially