micolle wallace played the clip. >> that i can't talk about. i won't talk about that. all i want is for comey to be honest. i'm sure he will be, i hope. >> you reacted in real time. i'm not going to talk about that. you think this is a very serious moment right there. >> i do. it's very striking. it's been 40 years since we had a president that we knew of anyway who wasrd recording on any regular basis, tape recording his conversations. there is a reason why other presidents haven't done it. because it didn't work out well for richard nixon, obviously. the idea that he is putting out there is either he is in fact taping conversations with the fbi director of all people or he is bluffing or misleading in order to intimidate somebody who might have conferring that he considers to be damaging i guess. either scenario is stunning i think for any white house. >> vivian, this would appear to be a second straight interview done perhaps outside the authority and track of the press shop in the west wing. lester holt, and then janine pirro in two straight interviews the president has made news n. three separate depictions of the west wing, i have read about a dark place this week a place where people who did not want to encounter the president had their doors closed. what can you speak to the mood