>> that was kristen welker earlier today. my panel is here. heidi, senior political reporter with "usa today." and an msnbc political analyst. steve kornacki, nbc and msnbc national political correspondent. chief legal correspondent at msnbc, ari melber. and matt schlapp. i was dismayed today, matt schlapp, going to you, back by popular demand, fan favorite. for a president so obsessed with how he's covered in the media. >> right. >> there's not one person other than i think we can agree, a very uneven performance from kellyanne conway last night on cnn, there wasn't anyone, not the author of this memo, not the attorney general, not anyone from the justice department, not arguably any of their supporters in league circles. i don't know, i'm sure they have some, right? why wasn't anyone defending this decision? >> they don't really do rollouts. that's now how this works. they make announcements.