and said it. >> i remember in south carolina. >> could never win. >> south carolina primary, the military state and won it easily. there was that. the other side of it, he did run on some degree of aggression. the distinction was he ran on bombing and not boots. when you start talking about even if it's own 3,000, 4,000 afghanistan, that is getting into an area he didn't run off. >> more details that dell gates authority over to the pentagon as opposed to the white house. i would be curious to see how russia reacts as well, there are reports that they are arming the taliban. if we fight against the taliban -- >> there we go. thank you, michael crowley for joining us and for our first show. back home and facing the wrath of veeters over health care, how worried should republicans be that obamacare is more popular today than on election day. i guess very worried but we'll get into that after this break. at red lobster's seafood trios