part of the fbi investigation. >> right. >> and listening to secretary rice reminded me of this again. our democracy is fragile and it's incredibly important to this country. and we cannot let a foreign power influence it. so a lot of this is how do we move forward? what does the media do when they're given cyber attack material from a foreign country? what do campaigns do to each other when they do that? we need an independent commission, at least, willie, to get to the bottom of the rules of the road going forward. >> you're not prepared to say you've seen collusion? >> i believe the investigation is going on right now. there are very, we will call, strange and telling facts that the chairman of the trump campaign had to step down because of ties to russia, that we have, in general flynn, someone that, despite all these warnings, including reported yesterday from president obama, that they decided to keep him on and hire him. despite these ties to russia. flynn called up the russians the