american public. that is a point that sometimes gets lost in the coverage of this how large an issue this is. lying is not just a matter of what is going on in the white house, what the american public deserves to know and whether or not this transition was trying to supersede the white house in power at the time. the one president at a time rule this country has observed for decades. >> katy tur, thank you and thank you for being part of our coverage. the trump white house, difficult to anticipate how they will react to what they saw today. as witness goes, how do you think yates did clinically? >> clinically, i truly thought she was excellent. she was very clear how she chose her words, what she would not speak to, what was covered and governed by the rules and she did not have a dramatic opening and it was preftory.