and never had and never would. >> ned price, you worked for susan price, so just to put that out there, you worked for her in the national security council. but we understand that general clapper, who is also testifying today, is going to or prepared if he's asked to testify that he routinely did unmasking, checked on what the name is of someone who came up in one of these -- one of these references because that's his job. he needed to know what the context is and whether that is significant to protect national security. >> what the trump administration has in effect done, andrea, is demonize a routine tactic that policymakers and intelligence analysts use on a daily basis. it would be dare lect on the part of the director of national intelligence or a cia analyst or the national security adviser to get an urgent report that alleges some sort of connection, some sort of u.s. nexus, whether it's a terrorist attack or counterintelligence matser and for that individual not to request the name of a u.s.