right? so we're going to look at that. we are looking at it right now, as we speak. and dodd/frank is -- is going to be very, very seriously changed so the banks can go back to loaning money. >> here with us in new york, msnbc anchor stephanie ruhle who before becoming a television journalist had a briere in big business working for buch bank. and bob costa joining us from washington. when you hear break up the big banks. an interesting phase. how real? >> the banks can get back to loaning money -- let's get something clear. the banks are still loaning money. president trump said we are going to break up the big banks. he is not the first to say it. gary cohn has already said it. when president trump did say it today you did see the bank index drop but then it came back. those in the banking universe said yep, he will get right on that.