significance of this test. does it feel like this is a back and forth between the president trump administration and north korea or north korea independently trying to get the world's attention? >> this was entirely expected. north korea has always tested -- this is his 75th missile test since kim jong-un came into power. and ninth test under trump's administration. this is expected. now that it is a second failed test this month, i think they have to continually test. and we are probably looking at another nuclear test down the road. and possibly even an icbm test. >> you don't think this is a response to donald trump making that out of the blue statement that we could have major, major conflict with north korea? >> well n a way because kim jong-un cannot back down and look like he is caving under pressure. but this is also north korea, as i said. in five and a half years he conducted 75 nuclear missile tests. >> one of the strange thing that