i think they would be wise to do so given t kinds of fractures we see in the republican party on capitol hill. but i do think it's an open question about whether or not they will be ability to get it done. it's not clear they've succeeded in unifying the republican base or willing to do anything to build support among democrats. >> people want to pay less taxes. we know that. . if president trump can deliver that for the man on the street, does it matter what he does for corporate america? simply cutting the corporate tax rate does not mean we're going to see growth nis country. it doesn't mean it's a direct line to job creation? >> people like to get things. that's the lesson of politics. it's easier to get something than have something taken away from you. think about the presidency the easiest way to have the most successful presidency is to have economic growth. they are thinking a lot about how do you have a tax plan that allows you to, yes, give people a tax reduction, but at a corporate level, stimulate growth. if you have growth, i've always wondered about president obama, did he ever have moments where