specifically, the kind of business he has, would go from being a 39% tax rate to 15% tax rate and then, of course, the death tax, estate tax, if that thing gets pulled that is great for the trump kids. >> right. >> we know whether or not trump puts country before -- excuse me country before self, he puts the trump family first. if you are steve mnuchin and gary cohn, the fact you have these legacy issues about donald trump and his family does that not make you say this job is hard enough working with democrats, why are you making it worse? >> i think what is true it's not surprising. this isn't the first time that a republican president of the united states has put forward a tax plan that benefits wealthy people at the expense of people in the middle class. that's exactly what we've seen from this -- i hesitate to call it a plan because it barely fit on one page. in terms of the proposal and principle thefrs' put forward it's not new for when it comes to republicans. that's why the question is going to be where they willing to wk with democrats to get it done?