that the house committee essentially blew up is and the senate committee seems to be doing nothing. >> jeremy, take me through the conversations taking place between intel committee, which has certainly suffered its schaeffer indigiies between the swearing of in a president who was skeptical of their findings and the continued skepticism of some of the community's observations or as john calls them, circumstantial pieces of evidence that they have shared with this committee so far. what's the conversation, or what are those talks sounding like between the intel community and people on the committee who are trying to seek the truth john talks about? >> folks inside the intelligence community are very concerned because they fundamentally believe that the white house is in denial, that the president is in denial about the fact that russia meddled in the election. it's not a finding that he even accepts. and we understand why he doesn't accept it. but they believe, and they have said this in a consensus finding