the universitys here? >> so anecdotally, i've talked to several universities and they're seeing less graduate students apply. and that's bad. because if you have any country that doesn't have immigration, they stagnate. the ones that do well are countries like america, where we have immigrants that renew our country, provide innovation and growth. there is also a high level of hypocrisy with this executive order. donald trump makes a lot of his products overseas. >> yeah. i think -- i don't think any of his products are made in the united states. they're all made in mexico and china. >> that's why i don't buy any items from the donald j. trump organization. >> your suit looks good. there is also a dark side to this rhetoric that's targeting people of color, including asian-americans. there has been an increase in hate crimes against people of asian descent. finding 130 reports of hate crimes and hate incidents since january. >> the segment you played with the interchange with president trump and steve bannon does show