she still holds ownership. ivanka trump's attorney is now speaking out saying, quote, since she resigned her position, ivanka has had no involvement with trademark applications submitted by the business and continued, quote, ivanka will recuse herself from particular matters where she has a conflict of interest. kate kelly covers wall street for "the new york times" and author of "black edge" inside information dirty money and the quest to bring down the most wanted man on wall street. sheila, i want to start with you. hi, ladies. while it might be legal for ivanka trump's lawyer to say she's not having those particular conversations, listen, even if she was still running her brand, she might not be the person to fill out an application for a trademark. she's the majority owner of her name sake business. >> so clearly they have made a decision that they're not going to set an example in this area. the whole trump family. so they are kind of complying