should it have anything to do with the north korea? >> it may be part of the overall relationship, but china is the key. china is the key. they can stop this if they want to because of their control over the north korean economy. and by the way i would point out -- i know this will come out later on, but there are artillery on the border between north and south korea that can reach seoul. we can't take them all out -- this is -- this may be the first test of this presidency. but china can shut them down. whether they're currency manipulators or not, we should expect them to act to prevent what could be a cataclysmic event and the north koreans keep making progress. they had a failure yesterday. i'm not sure -- >> do you buy the sabotage thing? >> i don't think so, but i wouldn't rule it out. but at the same time, they have made steady progress. while we have made agreement after agreement after agreement.