interventionalist. you may have to even, over the past three days, may have to remove the isolationist label from that tag. >> right. >> because things are moving so quickly. >> right. he contains multitudes, as the poets said. >> we are legion as the bible verse goes. go ahead. >> look, his flexibility is to his benefit in a kind of way. he can be isolationist when he wants to be, interventionalist when he wants to be. people expect all of this kind of change in varigated policy ideas. is the obama doctrine dead? i think essentially, in my definition or part of the obama doctrine, it was stay out of middle eastern wars, right? and don't go to what obama called classic washington playbook of trying to solve your middle east problems with missile strikes. here, donald trump, in a flash -- that was sort of the