an important objective, but it is not in its totality achieve what i hope is going to happen, which is the conditions for an alternative to assad to emerge. i don't think syria is going to be a stable yeun tarry government anytime in the near future, but i do think we can begin to take steps to provide alternatives to asd's rule. you've got to figure out who will govern sunnis in syria because they will never again to allow themselves to be governed by the government of assad. >> so much to discuss here. florida republican senator marco rubio, who we'll be seeing so much more of as senate intel hearings get cranked up. senator, please come on again. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. standing by for us in washington is chris matthews. chris, i watched your entire broadcast tonight. obviously you had to conduct a