>> and right there on eli's point without anyone trying to be patronizing, this president on the nuance, tends to wear his briefings very blatantly and immediately. he turned to the king of jordan and complicated him as a warrior. clearly briefed on his military back ground. he referred to, though not by name, a coverage he had clearly seen on the use of sarin gas. he comes to this business from business. not from a lifetime of learning this stuff, say what you will about nuance. what has the learning curve -- what did it look like to you today? >> honestly, it looked like he was making it up on the fly. i think it seemed as if he was personally offended, personally outraged by the scenes on attacks on babies, on children in syria. anyone would feel that way. i felt that way.