women of criminal sexual activity. >> right. >> they could play a baseball game against each other pretty soon. >> i've been watching the advertiser defection with great interest because, you know, that show and that network are such money generators. they're such revenue sources, do you wonder at what point you've reached some kind of societal breaking point in terms of the norms with big business that they feel like we can't be associated. >> i think of it as pre-cosby and post-cosby. this will be an interesting test. pre-cosby we had rush limbaugh and then kind of came creeping back and re-signed and he's still rushing around, whatever he does. then the cosby thing happened, and he is destroyed. so i think it will be really interesting to see if the cosby legacy will be lasting. >> but ailes happened post-cosby. ailes had to step down, albeit walk ago way with tens of millions of dollars. but he's not destroyed and has continued to advise this president. >> his livelihood doesn't