and others. as westernized leader as he is and you look at his record, you look at what he's done in this rebel war, and in this civil war, horrifics of a war, and it's hard to connect the two. >> i always bring up i had dinner with president salvakir who provoked a war and his people are stavging to death. it doesn't get the attention. i try to stick it in. >> that fake newsline he used in the interview, it's clearly something he adopted from our own political debates here. and i imagine we're going to hear more of it in the days to come as this gets more attention. >> michael, thank you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, susan rice hits back. the obama official at the center of the fire storm responding to critics on the right who accuse her of leaking and want her to testify. >> let me leak the name of mike