he has used in the past, which is chemical weapons. >> it always struck me, this is a man who is a trained doctor, an ophthalmologist. it's so hard for me when i see these videos. the most incredible atrocities, barrel bombs of chemical weapons, you know, killing everybody in sight, gasping for air, their heart muscle. >> you know, it's so strange and surreal. when i went for that interview, he greeted me at the door to his office, wanted to chat in a side room, asked me about the fate of the news media, told me what he likes to watch in the news media. you know, polished guy. this is a guy who -- american politicians like john kerry and others flew over and had dinner with, was invited -- london educated doctor, had flown to paris and was greeted by sarkozy