is not the kind of people that you wish to associate with. you, me, anybody. but there really is an anger in this country and there is a sense of isolation in this country. >> you think the political establishment didn't want to believe that the support was out there for him. >> i believe that. i believe that. and i believe that the journalists of your generation as opposed to mine which goes back 50 years. we were very different in my time as journalists as compared to the ones today because we were much more aware of the low basic, sometimes despicable character of our country because many of us came out of a rough and tumble or down-and-out life. we journalists of the post-war period, of which i am a part. i started in 1953, '54. we were of the under class. >> you don't identify exactly the same way reporters can be so cozy. i want to read this.