i think if i would have stayed around, things might have been different. you know how it is. that's the way i was brought up. just like you, you know what i mean? and getting into the drugs, that's what really brought me down. if i would have did it different, i know you wouldn't be here and i wouldn't be here, you know what i mean? it's kind of hard to see what was here, you know what i mean? almost on the same charges and everything. if i could, i would change everything. you know what i mean? it is kind of weird talking to you now, because we haven't really sat down to talk in, what, since you were, what, 11, was i think the last time? it's been like 20-some years. that's kind of -- kind of weird, you know.