they're concerned about their safety for their children just like anybody else would. but they have different layers of trauma that they have to deal with to just even experience everyday life. so when we think of them as thugs and gang bangers doing all kind of wild activity and violent, that is not the people who i'm seeing every day. the folks i see when i go in, everyday people who want access to a good life just like anybody else. >> you add to that, chris, the great weight of the trauma, how it manifests itself, in anxiety, anger, in depression, especially in young people whose brains are still forming. you talk to researchers and scientists and they say repeated exposure to violence makes you in a constant state of the fight or flight. nakia williams' daughter was shot and killed in the parking