fallout. kate walsh, long-time right hand man of reince iebus, she's been here in the westin and is going to be leaving to shift over to the political arm, the outside group that is working to sort of help president trump promote his policies and agenda out in the rest of america, out in the real world, similar to what former president obama had during his tenure. so it is a bit of a shakeup, the question is how much is this going to resonate or develop as far as other dominos that now may fall inside the west wing? this is a little bit -- i've got to say, craig, a little inside baseball, unless you live in d.c. or have connections to the city here, what does it matter? but it is an indication that there is some reassessment happening inside the west wing about leadership, about the way the direction is that they've been going, as well. >> josh, let's talk about what's expected to happen later today