botched? >> i think the president's comments on this speak for themselves. >> one more, the same thing. the president and members of the white house suggested that maybe we could get democrats on board, health care reform, but the fact that no democrat, not one dc supported the last attempt, and given the desires of the freedom caucus, versus what the democrats were doing, is it reasonable to think that only one democrat would want to come on board with this? >> no. i think it is not unreasonable -- >> is it reasonable. >> it depends on how they want to get there. it is picking up enough to get to 216. it is possible, sure. there is more to have the conversation. >> isn't that a boehner tactic.