and third is the legislative things that will take 60 votes that complete the overall package, how do i have -- seen there's a lot of, the comprehensive nature of this makes it very complicated and i think that's a lot different. normally you have one bill that sails through and deals with the things and you can roll it in. in this process we have one-off discussions about whether the senate accept this if you put it in, if you put it in, will they not only accept it but will the byrd rule take place and kick out the whole thing? that complicates this probably like nothing else. >> reporter: understood. just to put a fine point on it, was it his initial ask to do health care first or did house speaker paul ryan say -- >> this is something during the transition we sat down and gamed out in coordination with the house in terms of what should go first and why, but again it's not a question of what should go first. it's a question of if you don't do it first, you know, do you lose some of the potential savings you would achieve through the second reconciliation. >> reporter: would it have been