behind the scenes as well. so i think that they're bracing for what could be a loss, but again, administration officials insisting that the president remains determined and that the thinking is, forcing a vote will force the hands of all of those undecided and republicans who are leaning towards no, that forcing them to publicly vote will ultimately ramp up the pressure so much that they will flip. we'll have to see if that calculation actually works, and of course sean spicer will get a lot of questions about that strategy when he comes in just a few moments from now. >> any indication sean spicer is coming out or are they delaying it because of paul ryan? >> reporter: we have not gotten indication the brief something delayed. not unusual for him to be a few minutes late. if we get that guidance we'll update you. >> kristen, talk to me about optics, there was a debate ongoing, tons of activity on capitol hill with freedom caucus members saying they were saying no, they had a meeting with the president yesterday obviously. again they have a meeting with the vice president, but