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you'd have to combine those but there are i would call them the hell nos. that's what thomas massey has been saying about this in the freedom caucus, people who are simply unlikely to ever budge. i think if the president can crack a deal with the freedom caucus in this meeting, the question about our whip counts will be do the moderates add up with the hell nos to get us past 22 no votes. if the freedom caucus goes, it's going to be a lot easier for the speaker to do it but still on the edge. >> kasie, thanks for that. kasie hunt at capitol hill. we want to talk more now about obamacare's so-called essential health benefits that may now be in jeopardy. republicans leaders are reportedly considering eliminating those benefits to win over those hell no votes casey was just talking about. those include about ten different things, pregnancy, maternity, newborn care, mental health, prescription drugs, outpatient care, hospitalization, emergency room,

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