this is one of them which is used by members of parliament. he was, i'd say, possibly 50 yards he got from there because the area where it all happened, where this incident all happened, it's a little bit of parkland if you like. an area where people drive around in their cars before going into an underground car park. you can imagine the size of it. it's about the size of a football field perhaps. and he ran along part of that area towards the entrance. which the mps use. he got about 15 yards, 20 yards before he was shot. >> all right. quinton, thank you. i'm glad you're safe. thank you for helping us to understand a bit more about what happened here. i want to hear from some people who saw what happened as well from a different perspective. let's listen to that now. >> we heard shot goes off again. >> it's my phone.