as well. >> it could easily be as dni clapper says there's no collusion between trump campaign and the russians. but could be causing mischief they could have been doing this all themselves. it's reported that at least -- and then comey today said putin hates hillary. >> i think that's an important point. what happened here was not just the russians trying to help donald trump. they were punishing hillary clinton because she had bn an advocate for human rightsn russia. that should be scary to everybo everybody. that if an american politician speaks out. we've got to speak out about this. i want to go back. we don't know yet whether there was collusion between the trump campaign. that's what we need to learn. >> it's so early. there's so many unanswered questions at this point. i'm just repeating what somebody said today. what was secretary clinton saying during the time or during the whole leadup to election with all this? >> i think she was trying to focus on communicating her message. you know, she had important