why -- our russian relations are always with a few people. >> right. well, they -- >> like trump. >> the russians are extremely good at working and using networks. those networks come from established intelligence networks, financial networks. they start investing in relationships and sometimes those relationships blossom. sometimes those relationships don't. in europe, we're seeing where investments in far-right and far-left parties 20 years ago are now paying huge dividends as these political figures are now leaders. >> and the other thing, chris, is in the -- after the financial crisis, the russians and the chinese were the only people who were liquid whoad money to invest in real estate d casinos. >> florida real estate. >> yeah. >> florida real estate. they get paid double the money. thank you, senator sheldon whitehouse. we're out of time. thank you so much for joining us. glenn thrush, heather conley. more on the breaking news we've been reporting on msnbc, a federal judge in hawaii ordered a temporary restraining order against president trump's latest travel ban version.