ruhle. >> stefanie, seeing the big picture and what strikes you and what's here and what's not? >> what is here? a picture that actually looks to ali's point pretty good for president trump in 2005. he paid taxes and he paid quite a bit of them. >> to ali's point, president trump maybe sensitive of people not believing he's as wealthiest as he is. >> it is transparent cy. it is who are his lenders and who did he do business with. we know he did not use american banks and the one loan of $300 million loan and he still owe $300 million to the bank. the question had always been, this is the first businessman president that we had and people would like transparency. if it was easy for tonight's boom before rachel maddow show on the air. the white house had statement and was able to say, here is what we maid much left and