here. back to jim -- let's bring in republican chairman congressman dent. you've been following the story with us throughout the last half hour or so. your reaction to this latest piece of information coming from the secret service, as well as the other reporting coming from kelly o'donnell? >> well, thank you richard for having me on the program. yeah, i guess we're all very much disturbed and alarmed by the fact that the white house was once again breached. it appears that somebody scaled the fence over by the east wing of the white house. this is going to be a subject of investigation. i'm pleased that they apprehended the individual and it appears the individual was not a threat to the president or anyone in the white house. that said, this has happened too often. i'm sure the committee of homeland security will take this up and we'll have hearings on the latest breach. >> one of the questions that came from jim cavanaugh who you heard from, an msnbc analyst here, he said this is up to congress to fix things like --