what is your current status as regards the white house? >> okay, my current status is i'm in the process of selling my company. and so unfortunately i need a lot of investor consents to do that. as soon as the investor con sense come in, then my guess is i'll have a role in the administration. >> you'll have a role. >> yeah. that's what steve and reince have said to me and i take them at their word. >> you come from a world in which information sat a premium and in some ways regulated. you can get in trouble if you pass along information, if you trade on insider information. what does it mean when the evidentiary threshold of the president is so much lower than what you or i would use? >> okay, let me just say a couple of things. it's very interesting the way you framed it. i don't know what law school you went to, but they taught you really good the trial advocacy stuff. here are the fax i know, and i know the guy a long time. 21 years. i worked with him very closely for the last year. he's got great instincts, great intuition.