the political stage a? and i think it would be pretty eye-opening for them once they got out in. >> do you think they get the trump connection with the zeitgei zeitgeist? that's his great strength. he whistles into the exact mood of the country at the exact moment and says what's appropriate to that moment and how he keeps people interested in him. i think that is a talent of a sort. what do you think? >> oh, sure. sure thing. oprah winfrey obviously would come in with enormous advantages. >> people like her. >> the money -- >> that's a start. >> people like her, the money advantage. she has an -- she's an inspiring personality. she comes in with a lot of positives into the campaign and obviously one of the world's biggest celebrities. however, you know, if she ran as a democrat, she would face a democratic primary where she would have to say, hey, i'm a billionaire, but i get you. i get the working class conce s concerns. because all signs are that is going to be what this democratic primary may be about, who can really connect with the working class and allow the democratic party to reclaim that mantle as