low si and chuck schumer not necessarily to the chairman of the dnc. and jamel, i'm fascinated that the mtv guy is leaning towards the establishment. showing you how far the tv has gone. >> you have the wrong impression. it is not leaning towards the establishment, but the democratic party is larger than bernie sanders' wing of the party that has created so much quote, up quote energy a., and there is energy on the other side, too. >> and as somebody who is a close observer of this, ja meal or anybody, and is that more than bernie sanders versus the wing versus the establishment wing or bernie sanders' wing further divided between the bernie sanders' wing and the elizabeth warren wing? >> well, it is an excellent question, and there is certainly that i can do more report on that. >> you can have your show back in a moment, jonathan. >> i have no problem with really good questions, and that is a