taxpayers are subs digs is the trump kids' travel to do business in the middle east. at some point, some one will catch the attention of a judge. there will be an injunction and ruling. then there will be traction. but for the moment, the only person with standing to do this would have been north stram, they aren't going down the road. >> stephanie, don't know how to put this. you guys have a foot in the news world and a foot in the business news world. it is interesting to hear some one say, he is going to roll back regulation. tonight, at to meetings, signs are fears, consumer end, citizen end of rolling back regulation. what's good for one -- >> extraordinary. when gary kohn, white house economic adviser stood on the lawn, he said banks are the most highly capitalized we have ever been here in the united states. but we are being held back. banks are so well capitalized because of dodd frank. and banks are doing very well.