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joining me is john braybender, republican strategist. president of the progressive policy group, demos. trip gabriel have covered the town hall events for "the new york times." tripp, the hearings are held by members of the house, members of the senate, mostly republicans we're talking about. who is out in the crowd making the protest so loud and so effective so far? who are they? >> they're constituents in the districts of the congresspeople and the senators in the states. you just showed 2,000 people or so in arkansas. those were, you know -- >> locals. >> yep. >> they're not as we used to say in the '60s are the bad people, the outside agitators. they're not that. >> they're inside agitators. >> how do we know about the groups like indivisible, that group, i've been reading their material. thought it was fascinating. just read this. maybe you should achnswer this, heather. "if a small minority in the tea party could stop president obama then, we the majority can stop a petty tyrant named trump." pretty clear voice there. >> this was a guy -- this is

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