"meet the press," he reduced the hundreds to -- he lost many, many friends. the truth is he lost zero. donald trump did not attend a single 9/11 funeral. he stands there in front of the debate audience and lost hundreds of friends of 9/11. the truth is he lost zero. he lost nothing. he suffered nothing on 9/11. what do you call that? what did we just see? >> well, it's lying, but there are two pieces to it, i think, one is that he lies because of his sociopathic tendencies that doctor gardner was talking about. he lies in the way and scams people, he's trying to sell an idea or a product by telling you something that's untrue. there's that lie. there's also the kind of lie he has that is in a way more serious. that he has a loose grip on reality. we can say that because he lies about things which aren't even that important to him, like the electoral college marget, and he's been told it's not true, but he keeps doing it. i think what that indicates is that he can't stand an aspect of reality that he doesn't want. so he rejects it. his grasp of reality, his attention to reality is loose, and extremely dangerous trait in