trying to push back because thus far it hasn't been a success. >> we only need three republicans to decide that the person who heads the labor department ought to support workers. safe working environments. people having a living wage. you're right. any one of a number of things that have come forward about him would have disqualified any other nominee. i helped lead an effort where we did a citizen forum with his employees coming in and former employees, and it was shocking. it was absolutely shocking to hear the way they had been treated by this man. >> do you think -- >> who has led this company. >> do you think you have three republicans? >> we don't know at this point. there's going to be -- there's a lot of people engaged in this on a lot of different levels, and we'll have to wait and see. they've got to decide on their own, and be accountable to their citizens. their working men and women in their states. and so we'll see.