>> it was so much fun. it's like i've got access to this. there was never a question. it's fun all the time. then it's like, well, this sucks. this is not fun. you know what i mean? >> not only that, now instead of working alone, chris was knee deep in a family business. >> i'm not going to candy coat this. we've had some hellacious fights. it's why most of the office doors don't have doors on them. we've had some epic blowouts. >> we're not a lot alike. it's always rough. he doesn't listen to me a lot when it comes to that stuff. >> it wasn't working and chris needed an out. he found it in the form of some machinery sitting idolly in a factory. >> it's time to take this from a business to business entity and create something that has our attitude, our flair. >> so he started his own business. note pads and teen.