judicial branch is willing to stand up to him. we've seen it in his muslim ban case, by the way, everything has that mie yaz ma of scandal about it in the muslim ban, there were issues about whether he spared the countries where he has business ties. painter and i wrote in the times about that, ultimately the judicial branch is going to be holding him accountable and professor painter, myself, crew, the organization we lead has brought a lawsuit to do just that, saying he can't accept these foreign government and we're going to seek discovery in the court allows it and we're going to try to get those tax returns in order to establish these foreign government payments. they're against the constitution. so it's up to the courts and the state ags have a big role to play as we've seen in the immigration litigation. >> richard painter, just to clarify, i heard norm's legal plan there, but what gives crews