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childhood in minnesota and how globalization helps us. there are net losers as you point out but the drain drain of these students coming from muslim, you know, majority countries and it's the message that we're spreading also to students from india and other countries, which have benefited us so greatly. universities, silicon valley companies, all concerned about what we're losing. >> well, you know, the essential argument of the book, andrea, you have to connect the main dots, climate, technology and globalization. they're all really reshaping the world so if you think of checking boxes, not connecting boxes you're going to have a problem. so just taking that libyan student, here's my iphone. this iphone was conceived by steve jobs. steve jobs was conceived, his biological father, by abdul fatah al jindali, who was a senior student at the university of wisconsin in the 1950s.

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