filibuster, cloture, ability to slow things down, sometimes stop things and we're going to use all these tools. right now chuck schumer, the democratic senate leader is the most united states and he is organizing us, but also saying, you know, we don't need to just grab the reins away from the grass roots. this grass roots activism is not something where we feel like the base is running away from us. we're energized by this. >> senator tim kaine, thank you very much for being on the show this morning. very good to see you again. still to come, senator rand paul will be our guest. we'll be back.