will vote for -- i know that i'd be interested in voting for just a debt extension. but if they couple it with policy changes, such as giving tax breaks to the wealthy or cutting programs that are critically important to middle income families, then they're on their own. >> i guess the bottom line is -- government shut down, would you call for that? april 28th is the deadline to fund the government. should democrats rule out a shut down? >> no, democrats do not want to shut down. we want the government to continue, we tried to get a full year budget this year -- >> so what leverage do you have? sorry to interrupt, what leverage do you have? >> if the republicans act responsibly, if they work with democrats, we'll get a budget done this year. we know it's not going to be our budget. we know that we won't get the what we want, but if it's a true compromise, then democrats are prepared to work with republicans. but if they go their own way, if they look for tax cuts for the wealthy look to cut social