video conferences with the key cocommanders throughout there. it's always good to see you again, sir. again. there is an emphasis on familiarity. he knows this building. but to give you a sense of how much they like him here. buildi. to give you a sense how much they like him here. the story about him getting his hair cut at the pentagon barber cut, that makes the round and people like him. >> it's the kind of colorful detail we've come to expert from you, hans. >> stay with us, thank you. some of the -- it's interesting, i feel like you worry some that mattis will be sort of out there if trump is making one comment on torture, there's the law on the other side then there's that middle ground. >> there's no doubt that trump has enormous respect for mattis and one has to wonder when he continues interview after interview to say here's my belief on torture. i believe it works. is he trying to box the general